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Odata cu single-ul "Baby's got a temper", multa lume a fost de parere ca Prodigy nu vor mai fii niciodata ceea ce au fost pana in 97. Ei bine, se pare ca nu e asa.
Va invit sa cititi cel mai important interviu cu Liam in 6 ani la www.nekozine.co.uk.
"So I decided to take the beats back to the street"
s-ar parea ca de data asta e mai sigur pe el... sa vedem de ce e in stare...
:D apropo, foloseste Reason :D
...de ce oare nu ma surprinde chestia asta...
cred ca stim cu totii "de ce e in stare" Liam Howlett.
bine bine am inteles.
trebuia sa ma gandesc ca Prodigy e prea "comercial" ca sa faca subiectul unei discutii...
silvinho
13-01-2004, 11:54
Mmmm...Screamu' din 2.5! Sunt curios cum suna noile bucati Prodigy cu Reason!...
It was about fuckin time. Inca 2-3 ani si mureau toti fanii Prodigy de batranete si inima rea. Cat despre faza cu reasonul, nu uitati ca omul a zis ceva gen "like a sketch pad" adica nu va asteptati sa faca toata munca in reason. Mai degraba cred ca acolo iau ideile lui o forma. Dar greul muncii nu am nici o indoiala ca tot in Strongroom / Dirtchamber se face 8)
Inca 2-3 ani si mureau toti fanii Prodigy de batranete si inima rea.
Sau li se dezintegrau tricourile. Am vrut sa zic atent puse la naftalina. Dar nu e cazul in Romania. Vezi pozele TMBase din 2002. :D
acum un an s-a zvonit ca Sasha si-a facut AirDrawnDagger in Reason - COMPLET NEADAVARAT
acum doi ani s-a zvonit ca Sven Vath si-a facut ultimele piese in Reason - NEADAVARAT
anul acesta.. IAR am citit pe net.. ca Liam foloseste Reason - DONT BUY IT
Liam are 8 ani de pian.. si cam tot ce ii trebuie in "dormitor"
faza cu Reason este numai un zvonex :D serios
Vezi pozele TMBase din 2002. :D
tu crezi ca faggotu ala stie alta melodie in afara de 'smack my bitch up' ?
...asa credeam si eu :)
si ce daca foloseste reason? daca va suna bine poate s fie facut si in impulse tracker(nici chiar asa...)
:wink:
n' Smart
28-01-2004, 22:25
Adik mi s-a racit chifteua atatia ani ca sa apara cu ceva facut in Reason??? Protextez!!!
"acum un an s-a zvonit ca Sasha si-a facut AirDrawnDagger in Reason - COMPLET NEADAVARAT"
pai de - e neadevarat.
cantecul e facut in Buzz.
daca o sa gasesti interviul cu sasha o sa vezi ca zice de cantec
ca l-a facut in avion pe laptop in Buzz.
nu vad ce rost ar avea sa tromboneasca din moment ce Buzz e free.
cat despre liam - la fel - nu e zvon
spune chestiile astea in interviu oficial.
bineinteles ca foloseste reason pt sketches
ca doar nu o sa-i sune albumul ca din conserva
asa cum suna din domnul reason.
oricum - eu sunt sceptic cu privire la noul material al lor
baba cu colacii s-a dus ...
waka x / TMBase
Man hai sa asteptam,ca de fapt asta ne intereseaza,si anume cum suna bucatile.Eu unul cred ca AONO va fi un insucces.Cel putin din ce-a scos cu trigger si nuclear(sucks).Dar asta nu inseaman ca nu ii voi iubi mereu. :wink:
sensorship
29-01-2004, 20:08
eu cred ca e bine ca s-au lasat de treaba, a fost frumos cand a fost, acuma gata, sa-i mai lase si pe altii ca altfel ajungem sa facem Prodigy lookalike contest ca la Elvis...
cat despre reason, e ff bun pentru schite pt ca ai tot la indemana...ce aveti cu el ? nu uitati ca exista si versiunea pentru pro tools prin care e sigur ca suna mai bine, asta dupa ce schiteaza in el trece tot pe pro tools si scule analoage si le da in nas la astia ca voi care stiu ca carcoteasca
wakax...lol.tu spui k reason e bun doar pt sketches...te cam inseli...da`mi un motiv pentru care buzz ar fi mai bun...in afara ca e free...sji vorbind de `sunet din conserva` asculta mai bine...inclusiv ce faci si tu :oops:
dome:
nu trebuie sa o iei personal.
toata lumea stie cum suna reasonul.
cat despre cantecele mele
ma stradui sa le masterui cat pot de bine
in conditiile tehnice pe care le am.
e un act gratuit si de prostie sa ma insulti pentru ceva ce nu-i nici macar facut de tine da' asta imi da de gandit -
o sa ma abtin sa mai postez pe aici desi as fi indreptatit sa o fac.
daca experienta mea de 8 ani in computers audio nu inseamna nimic pentru tine - o sa ma abtin :)
sa fi sanatos - si la punga gros !
si da-i cu reasonul inainte !
waka x / tmbase
wakax...nu o lua ca pe o ofensa...ce am vrut sa spun de muzik ta e k nu se simte compresia, cel putzin ce am ascultat eu parea cam `flat` sji de aici am presupus k software`ul trebuie sa fie cauza...ceea ce in reason nu am simtzit, kiar folosind numai compresorul din el. ca orice soft are sji el bile negre ,dar pana acum il consider cel mai bun generator...sji dak fak rewire cu sx`ul numai a conserva nu suna. de buzz nu mi`a placut din cauza sequencerului in primul rand ,desji am apreciat libertatea conexiunilor pe care potzi sa le faci...
waka nu vroia sa zica ca buzz suna mai bine decat reason, a vrut doar sa sublinieze faptul ca "zvonurile" astea chiar pot fi adevarate, liam nefiind primul om care foloseste un software, ba chiar unii au folosit si din astea "free". folosirea buzzului nu inseamna neaparat folosirea sintezei din buzz, ci doar al avantajului conexiunilor - si pentru unii, sequencerul de tip tracker este first love :)
oricum, respectivii nu dumpuie wavul si il trantesc pe cd... la ce studiouri au, chiar ar putea sa foloseasca si fasttracker + good samples, si dupa mastering le-ar suna bine.
sper ca urmatorul interviu sa va lamureasca. liam a primit si ceva bani sa spuna niste lucruri(e destul de transparent), dar daca va uitati bine, el spune la un moment dat ca reasonul ii foloseste drept un fel de notite. the heavy stuff is in the studio.
Liam Howlett of Prodigy explains why Reason, to him, is the best thing since
sliced bread.
by Fredrik Hagglund
Anyone who wasn't in a deep coma all through the 1990's would be hard
pressed not to remember Essex based dance outfit The Prodigy. They extracted
the pure essence of the rave scene, infused it with hefty doses of punk,
funk & skunk, wrapped it up and smuggled this package of unbridled club
energy into your living room in the guise of chart smashers like Out of
Space, Poison, Firestarter, Breathe and Smack My Bitch Up. But where are
they now? As it turns out, they're already on the approach for your speaker
membranes at 300 mph, dead set on making all the world's decibel meters blow
their fuses once more.
Rumblings from the Dirtchamber
We tune in as Liam Howlett, the sonic sculptor of the band, is busy crafting
the fourth Prodigy album in the depths of his studio dwelling The
Dirtchamber. It has indeed been a while since we last heard from them; 1997
saw the release of The Fat of the Land, but other than the orphan single
Baby's Got a Temper - released in the summer of 2002 - Prodigy have been
perplexingly quiet.
A six year hiatus, why?
- Well it wasn't a conscious decision or a plan, really; it just happened.
We knew there would be downtime after The Fat of the Land - we felt we had
reached the pinnacle of what Prodigy was, and I myself had my mind set on
taking a couple of years off. And then time just flew by, know what I mean?
About 2 years ago I started working again, but soon realized I needed to
shift myself out of the formula I'd gotten into from working in the same
environment all the time. I'd written everything in Cubase from 1993
onwards, with a bunch of hardware synths and Akai samplers as my main setup.
I sat down and I thought, "well... this is just so boring. How can I ever
get inspired doing the same old thing? How am I gonna write a fresh,
inspired album? I'm not enjoying it, it's not going anywhere, I hate my
studio, I hate all the equipment in it."
For a man with a hardware gear list the size of a small town phone
directory, that's a lot of equipment to hate. Liam's winding road through
the world of music making is one which many of his generation can relate to;
he started out with a simple 4-track portastudio and turntables in the 1980'
s, soon got into synthesizers, and eventually found himself using a Roland
W-30 workstation with a whopping 16 seconds worth of sampling time. The
entire first album, The Prodigy Experience, was created on just this one
keyboard. As the royalties started rolling in, so did the gear - and soon
enough Liam found himself immersed in a machine park with enough electronics
to fill a space cruiser. But, as anyone who's been-there-done-that will
know, that can be more of a curse than a blessing.
What got you back on track again?
- I bought myself a laptop, which completely reanimated my creative process
because I was able to write anywhere I went. At one point someone told me to
check out this program Reason, "it's really back to basics, you should check
it out just for fun, you know?" So I did - I started out just writing beats
on it and approached it in a sort of recreational sense, like you would a
computer game. Then I'd go off somewhere like Scotland or New York and I'd
take my laptop with me, with all my samples on the hard drive... and then it
all just started happening. Reason was just like... it totally refreshed me,
it was just amazing. It was like going back to how it was in the beginning.
All of a sudden I was writing two or three songs a week, just messing around
and having a laff again. I started something with it and got it rocking in
ten minutes. That took a lot of pressure off of me. So, to summarize: What
got me back on track was A) the laptop, and a program that let me feel I'
ve gone back and taken all the complication out of writing music.
A lot of people feel that way; Reason is like a lifesaver for the bored
gearhead musician. You?
- Yeah, I couldn't live without it. If Reason hadn't come along I would
probably still be in my studio, depressed, going "aww bloody 'ell, don't
know what I'm gonna do", you know? I don't want to pat Propellerhead on the
back too much, but... Reason has literally changed my life, getting me back
in the studio and enjoying it all again. It's taken the monotony out of
music making and put it into a format where music should be these days - no
big deal, just something that should be fun to do. Creation is always
painful, but this is the least painful way I know of.
What do you think it was in the old days that ultimately sucked the life out
of creativity?
- It was all so time consuming back then, we were all bogged down in
cumbersome processes. I'm not very technical - I come from a hip hop sort of
cut-and-paste background and I'm not this big studio guy, it's just all in
my head. The technology available now frees the mind in the creative sense;
I'm able to think about the actual song a lot more, rather than just going
"it's gonna take me an hour to do this or that". Music for me these days is
quite punk rock, it's very DIY, very throwaway. I know I'm not creating
something that's gonna be around forever. For me and for Prodigy it's all
about the quick punch in the face, you know?
So, Reason is pretty much the meat of the sound on the new album?
- Literally everything you'll hear on the new album has been written on
Reason. Everything starts there. Eventually we get to a stage where the song
is written, and then we - that's my producer Neil McClennan and I - move it
into 'Tools where we finish off everything, and that works great since
Reason integrates with ProTools really well. Everything that comes out of
Reason sounds really good, it's got this sound, I think - a kind of
certain... everything sounds like it "locks in" really good, you know? And
that sound we got out of Reason is something that we now and again had to go
back to Reason to duplicate; sometimes we'd do a thing in ProTools and it
just didn't rock it like Reason did, so we'd take it out of ProTools and try
to duplicate it in Reason instead.
What are your favorite Reason devices?
- That would have to be the drum machine and the Dr. REX. I use the REX
player all over the place and I just love the way you can mess around with a
loop, and I love the way you can sync the LFO to tempo and route it to the
filter, we use that on the album a lot. As for the effects, the Scream 4
unit is just the best thing for the type of music I'm writing. Definitely
the high point of version 2.5 for me. The tape distortion is very good for
bass, to give it the edge, it's warm...
What, specifically, don't you use Reason for?
- When it comes to bass sounds, I'm pure analog and I don't use soft synths
for bass at all. There's just no substitute for analog. Instead, I'll take
an Oberheim, Moog, Korg MS-20 or something, sample a sequence of it playing,
rex it up and then bring that back in Reason and lock it in there. I do
occasionally use the softsynths to put melodies down - I'd say maybe 50% of
the synths, the top line and high end stuff, is Reason. I can't as of yet
use it for everything - obviously you can't record vocals into it - but
ultimately, what Reason does have by way of limitations is also one of its
strong points. It forces your imagination to be more on the board, you have
to dig it out of your head rather than just going "well, I just can't do
that in there". I never saw it that way, I mean if something you want to do
is completely off limits then just use another program, no big deal.
Liam has a wish list for things he'd like to see in future versions of
Reason. One would be the ability to automap non-tonal samples to individual
key zones in the NN-XT, for creating drum maps on the fly.
- My end note on Reason is, it's got this humour about it, it's like - when
somebody showed it to me the first time and said "you can keep on building
the rack up..." I was all, "what rack, what're you on about?" I couldn't
believe it, it was just such a simple and genius idea. It's so obvious now,
isn't it? Love it.
mda... il citisem in paralel si pe asta... interviul de mai sus era pe www.propellerheads.se, pt cei interesati...
...right...eu nu am prins era trackerelor...nu`s genul meu
cat despre Liam , nu o sa puna skulele la naftalina pentru reason
Alex Samant
07-02-2004, 21:56
Oameni buni:
Wake up and smell the coffee: NU a aparut inca softul ala care sa SUNE bine sau la nivelul sculelor (cu alte cuvinte nu s-a egalat hardware-ul si lucrurile nu sunt nici macar pe aproape). E ok ca Cubase SX e super-editor si faci super treburi in el, dar pe cand voi va excitati cu CubaseSX2 industria a luat-o inainte cu tot felul de console (fairlight prodigy, ams-uri sau solid state logicuri).
Orice s-ar intampla conflictul asta cretin soft vs hardware (razboiul saracilor) nu se va termina cu victoria soft (sau calculator mai corect) ci in cel mai bun caz cu o super-impletire de tehnologii (ceea ce deja se intampla).
iar cu synthurile sau samplerele eu VA GARANTEZ ca o tura de copii programatori de meserie NU VOR RIVALIZA cu oameni care proiecteaza hardware pro audio de zeci de ani de zile si care fac parte dintr-o industrie compacta.
WORD
Reason: TOTAL FAILURE. Cel mai prost synth software(ca sound si versatilitate) in combinatie cu un mixer rudimentar, un sampler care suna mai prost ca Fruity Loops ..... ar mai fi ... asta ca nu intru in modulele de efecte......
Don't use sketches. Just do music !
Alex Samant
07-02-2004, 21:59
Probabil ca mai prost ca subtraktor suna o singura scula:
KORG Electribe A - absolut jenant....
Alex Samant
07-02-2004, 22:01
Si inca o faza care pe mine ma enerveaza e ca Liam spune ca uraste studioul si tot echipamentul din el (ceea ce e greu de crezut avand in vedere ca poseda toate synthurile vintage modulare pe care le poti imagina adevarate scule de sound design nu altceva).
Bine mosule, te-ai saturat... intelegem.... dar fratele meu... ai aterizat pe REASON..... what's wrong with you !??!?!
ahem. :oops:
folosesc only reason...
domnule Alex S. in loc de lista de comentarii pe care vroiam sa o postez, voi pune o singura intrebare: Dillinja si Lemon D nu au o piesa numita "8-bit Bass" pe The Crash Test EP?
totul tine de creativitatea omului... nu ai imaginatie si inspiratie, nu ai nimic de spus...
domnule Alex S:
un sound bun provine de la lucrurile simple...de exemplu o forma de unda simpla incarcata intr`un sampler sji apoi modulata ,suna foarte 'real'
fat sa spunem...daca sample`ul pe care il folosesjti e produs de catre un oscilator real...
go on with frutty loops
dupa parerea mea l.howlett stie foarte bine ce are de facut ca sa vanda, declaratia lui contine si niste exagerari din acest motiv.
in ce priveste discutia tehnica eu cred nu trebuie fetishizat nimic, drumul pana la o piesa cu succes e mai complex, nu e numai o problema de sound. fiecare om care face muzica are solutiile lui (nu numai de sound), care ii deschid sau nu calea catre un anumit fel de succes sau altul. spor la treaba cu sau fara reason!
Alex Samant
08-02-2004, 19:46
dome si MRV: foarte bine.... folositi ce vreti voi. Eu doar imi spuneam parerea. dar am o singura intrebare... dome: de ce folosesti "only" reason ????
edit: vezi la Studio Setups!
Alex, eu nu folosesc numai reason...in general baza e pe Sx...asta e engin`ul..apoi fak rewire sji principalele kestii le fak in reason...mai folosesc VST`uri ca absynth2 ,V-Station ,Arturia modular ,D'cota ,Pentagon...sji un pic FM7 ,e...mai sunt cateva
Aditzional mai incerc cu o kitara jackson...dar nu suna prea bine din cauza placii de sunet cred... :D e creative audigy sji n`are intrarea prea grozava
interviu de la propellerheads.se e total FAKE... daca ati citi mai bine interviu de la nekozine , spune clar ca aia e o idiotenie , si pe langa asta liam can't be musicaly dead already :)
Mai devreme se plangea cineva de scorurile echipamentelor.
Insa, pentru cine se pricepe cat de cat la electronica, treburile se pot rezolva destul de ieftin.
Pe http://www.ucapps.de sunt prezentate niste proiecte open-source de echipament: controllere MIDI (v-ar place sa avetzi la indemana 64 de potentziometre & 60 buttons cu care sa controlatzi real-time cam ce parametrii "vrea mushchii vostri" din cam orice soft, nu ?) si un sintetizator analogic (acum si cu interfatza de control dedicata) bazat pe cip-ul de sunet din Commodore C64.
Eu mai am putzin si temin un controller Midibox 64 (au iesit si altele mai noi intre timp) - este perfect functional, mai am de facut doar cutia. Cel mai greu lucru a fost sa fac placile de cablaj. M-a costat cam 150 euro.
Misto, nu ? Urmatorul montaj propus - sintetizatorul.
Good point Cycler...site`ul ala kiar m`a inspirat...ce zici de midibox64e?
CDJ Doru the Damaja
01-04-2004, 22:13
Ar fi cazul sa mutati subiectul asta megaplictisitor (pt mine cel putin) la Studio.
Or something.
L-am mutat ! DIY-eri, repede, la studio :)
quote taken from http://www.nekozine.co.uk/prodigynewalbum.html
Statement by Liam Howlett about the new Prodigy album
30th April 2004
hey neko --- the new prodigy album is finished!
we got 11 possibly 12 fist in the air traks .
it sounds sinister, electronic, trashy, sexy and fresh to my ears.
this album is about reminding people what the prodigy was always about---the beats and the music.
the vocals on this record are mostly used as an extension of the sound rather than the main focal point.
like jilted , keef and maxim were'nt involved musically and they are not on this album. ALL 3 of us will be together to do what we do and play this record live and rock it later in the year, we cant fukin wait!
you will probably begin to hear stuff early summer and the new album will hit in august. yeah -- more news to follow soon.
"if i was in world war 2 ,they'd call me spitfire!" Liam Prodigy
The album release date has been confirmed for 16th August 2004
ALL 3 of us will be together to do what we do and play this record live and rock it later in the year, we cant fukin wait!
Prodigy live ... now that's something i haven't been treated to in a while ... :D
http://www.nekozine.co.uk/prodigy/info/aono.html - UPDATED.
http://members.chello.nl/s.vandijk11/
http://www.theprodigy.ru/?page=downloads/music/music#prodigy
d/l it si dati-va cu parerea! io zic k nu e ceva deosebit, dar totusi nu e rau...merge ascultat/dansat..... 8)
albumul a iesit. se numeste "Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned". my 2 cents: nu s-a schimbat nimic in soundul lor. parca ar fi remixes la piesele vechi ...
_waks
CDJ Doru the Damaja
05-07-2004, 14:19
The Prodigy said it sounds "sexier" and "punk in attitude". He added: "It is more beats and hard production and kind of toughness that's on a street level."
L'as asculta pt featurile cu Princess Superstar, Kool Keith si Ping Pong Bitches. Si cine stie, poate c'o sa'mi placa.
e un album ok, mie imi place. are vibe oldskool si nitzel punkereala. marfa!
Suna bine (cam la fel totusi) dar de la freak powa a dat-o in tra-la-la si gay dance :oops:
PHAT PHAT PHAT.
Medusa's path is nice.
am si eu o intrebare: de unde downloadez albumu asta la calitate misto?
am stat de vorba cu fani prodigy si parerile sunt destul de impartite...pe multi ii sperie noul videoclip. Sper ca nu tot albumul(ca structura) e ca girl caci aia nu`mi place. pacat de ei.
albumul e original / inovator.
legat de discutia de acum cateva luni, chiar ARE sound de laptop. si e tare ca e asa. raw.
la prima ascultare, normal ca nu o sa zici "uaaa!!", nu e genul de album care se topeste in gura. dar e cu siguranta genre-breaking.
nu vreau sa ma dau rotund, dar pentru lumea care zice ce e un album prost, o sa vedem unde se duce muzica electronica in urmatorii ani :wink:
"faster but slower" :!:
mie mi se pare un album prost. o spun fara nici o rautate. nu are acel ceva, care ii trebuie unui album ... doesn't do it for me.
defapt ca sa fac o paranteza, pentru mine toti greii de odinioara, anul acesta au dat gres, cu o mica exceptie .. fatboyslim
orbital - blue - slab
prodigy - varza
faithless - slab
urmeaza si che bros care sigur nu vor dezamagi. si desigur suie :lol:
dubwisah
27-09-2004, 12:26
la o prima ascultare mie mi-au placut Phoenix si You will be under my wheels.
La o prima ascultare, nu m-a "emotionat" decat Spitfire. La o a doua-treia ascultare mi-a placut totul, Girls fiind pe unul din locurile fruntase in top.
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